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Post by The Amethyst Dragon on Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:26 pm

I'm considering making the following changes to the War Hulk semi-class, since I now have the ability to alter base ability scores.

Instead of the basic temporary bonus to attack and damage for your current weapon (as currently listed here)...

1st level: +1 Str (permanent bonus)
3rd level: +1 Str (permanent bonus)
5th level: +2 Str (permanent bonus)
Channel Power: Temporary enhancement bonus to Str and temporary attack bonus for 1 minute at a time (+1 Str/+2 Att per WH level), with slightly increased power point cost per use.
Edited to add: Those 5th level WHs channeling would still change appearance (if they didn't turn this feature off), but I'm looking at making them appear as a fire giant that seem better suited to war than the dumb-looking mountain giants.
Requirement: Deity (Torgat or Ragnor)

Those with the semi-class already would be grandfathered in regardless of deity if I make this change.

So...what do y'all think?

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Last edited by The Amethyst Dragon on Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:20 pm; edited 3 times in total (Reason for editing : Edited to keep this updated.)

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Post by Anthroplayer on Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:10 pm

I still want this semiclass removed from me so I can become a deadstalker, but then again if the changes occur I will actually want the changes made, because the changes would benefit my character if he remains a warhulk.

In other words, if my vote will bring things to yes, then add my vote for me, if not, add my vote to no and remove my semiclass so I can advance my character the way I wanted him too.
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Post by MannyJabrielle on Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:32 pm

I like the changes, but I'm not entirely sure about the diety requirement. Torgat is the natural choice for a diety restriction, but I could also see follows of other gods having reasons to want to excell in battle. Dalix follows such as paladins would be very likely to focus on martial skills, and see the honorable side of combat while Ragnor followers would relish the extra ability to kill and maim stuff.

And a question about those grandfathered in to the new system who've already attained War Hulk 5, would they get the strength adjustments when/if it goes live?
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Post by The Amethyst Dragon on Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:01 pm

If I make these changes, then yes, those that already have the levels in War Hulk would get the Strength adjustments.

I'm looking to Torgat because he's specifically the god of war (rather than guardians, honor, and protection like Dalix). I see this as fitting Ragnor too, because he's the god of destruction (and brute strength often leads directly to destruction).

While added strength would definitely benefit any warrior, I have plans for semi-classes geared towards the followers of other deities (including one that uses energy from Turn Undead into weapon enhancers vs. evil called Bladewarden).

Anthroplayer, it's already looking like this change will be made, but if you still need your semi-class removed, send me a PM and we'll see what I can do.

Oh, and I edited the first post in this thread to mention the appearance change I'm considering, too.

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Post by Ra Cha Chongo on Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:47 am

I voted "yes, please!"

Though Axlerod will be wanting to turn off that transformation into a giant thing; unsightly height and all that. How's that done?
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Post by daveyeisley on Sat Feb 21, 2009 7:14 pm

Im not real big on the deity restriction to be honest.

I don't see a need for it... deities already have benefits for their followers, and more for their clerics. I don't think its good to have semi-classes for specific deities, too. Better to make a class or feat requirement...

Now the channel power granting a strength enhancement... will this mean a reduction of the attack bonus?

The reason I ask is that my war hulk is already at his enhancement cap, and would gain no benefit from strength enhancement. I wouldnt mind so much as long as the 5th level attack bonus is still +10... but if this is going to be reduced, then I am not in favor of the change.

The permanent Str bonus is nice, however.
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Post by Svair on Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:12 am

daveyeisley wrote:Im not real big on the deity restriction to be honest.

...I wouldnt mind so much as long as the 5th level attack bonus is still +10...


As the only "no" vote so far, daveyeisley has more succinctly expressed my reservations than I could.

Other than that, I don't have any real objections.
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Post by The Amethyst Dragon on Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:36 am

That's why I love having this forum. Feedback from the players.

Diety restriction...I think we can just let this one slide onto the cutting room floor.

Attack bonus...I thought I wasn't changing it from how it is now, but looking back it looks like that's what I wrote above. It really should be +2 to attack per WH level as it currently is. *shakes head at self* Going to have to edit that now...

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Post by The Amethyst Dragon on Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:39 am

Ra Cha Chongo...is that S.C.U.D., the disposable assassin? I haven't seen him in many a year.

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Post by daveyeisley on Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:31 pm

Per The Amethyst Dragon's response,. changing my vote to "yes".
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Post by Ra Cha Chongo on Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:49 pm

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Post by MannyJabrielle on Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:56 pm

Are these changes in now? I noticed the message for war hulk channeling says "1 minute" now, but my warhulk hasn't received the +1 permenant strength bonus.
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Post by MannyJabrielle on Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:41 pm

heh, scratch my last. Upon leveling up in warhulk again, I got the 3rd level strength boost. Angar took warhulk before this change, and Alex had 5 warhulk long ago... I think that war hulk levels taken before the change aren't applying the permenant strength boosts?
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Post by daveyeisley on Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:50 pm

Bump

Aszhad has not gotten his strength boosts at all.

I will need a DM's help to have them added please.
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Post by Svair on Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:32 pm

Phyllick hasn't got his bonuses either.
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Post by The Amethyst Dragon on Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:20 pm

Ok. Try this. Log in with your war hulk and enter sc update. That should do the trick.

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Post by Svair on Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:15 am

The Amethyst Dragon wrote:Ok. Try this. Log in with your war hulk and enter sc update. That should do the trick.

Using 'sc update' modified my PC's STR. Thanks The Amethyst Dragon!
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