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Post by Ramana Jala on Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:43 am

This is a strange bug, that I remembered because of Svair's post.

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When my ranger/rogue was in the Library, there's a corner in the main book room that the entrance to seems sort of secret, because it's not a regular door and it kept appearing/opening and closing while my toon was there, with a portal vfx. So, I walked into it, and did not transit any portal but walked through that vfx into the space behind it. It was dark and did not become not highlighted when I went in there, like it was an illegal area, and probably the room itself behind the portal is not supposed to be walked into. But I was curious, so I equipped a flaming Staff (the special one) and walked back in. Well, that did illuminate the area, which I found to be an odd occurrence of the ceilings not disappearing so I had to get down at char eye level to see the space.

But the oddest thing is that the weapon that I was holding changed. It rewrote itself from a Blazing Staff to a Blazing Club, with a corresponding change in appearance, label, portrait, and description. It stayed that way for a long while, at least until the next reset (if not longer, I don't really know). I realize that the base item of this Staff is actually a Club, so it was interesting how it rewrote itself back to its base appearance, apparently because of the area I'd walked my toon into.

It's back now to the way it was, a Blazing Staff, but I thought I'd mention this strange happening.
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Re: Weapon change in library

Post by Angel of Death on Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:42 am

Was said Library the one in Dawnholm by chance? Smile

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It would be a "secret club" only area. Only those Divine and Arcane Casters which has reached a certain point in their career will be able to gain access to that, to create new and wonderful ways to expand their magical horizon--and ways to cast spells. ^^

Aka. 21+ Epic Casters, a place to create new, powerful spells. Smile
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Re: Weapon change in library

Post by Ramana Jala on Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:11 pm

Yes, I thought so. Not a problem, the only problem was why the weapon changed.
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Re: Weapon change in library

Post by DPLincoln on Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:19 pm

Is that the blazing staff (quarterstaff) that changes attributes as you level?

If so, I had that in the bank and went to check it out and verify what changed with 5 levels since I last used it... poof... it was a 1H club instead of 2H staff. Everything else seems to be the same but its now and continues to be a club.
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Re: Weapon change in library

Post by Angel of Death on Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:10 pm

Ramana Jala wrote:Yes, I thought so. Not a problem, the only problem was why the weapon changed.

Found The Amethyst Dragon's reply from a few days ago.

The Amethyst Dragon wrote:The quarterstaff version was dumped entirely in favor of the club, since all quarterstaves are now double weapons. I deemed it too powerful to have it automatically function as two +10 (plus other powers) weapons at 40th level.

From this thread.
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Re: Weapon change in library

Post by Ramana Jala on Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:50 pm

I'm not sure that The Amethyst Dragon meant that that base change happened in the last week. Because I'm pretty sure that it's been a club base for at least many months, as a while back I was curious whether two of these could be dual-wielded, so I did check what the base weapon behavior was to clue me in before I went to obtain another.

In any case, that doesn't explain why my Blazing Staff was changed merely by walking into an illegal area, and is now back to its previous appearance again.

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Re: Weapon change in library

Post by Angel of Death on Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:18 am

Ah, might have misunderstood your post then. Have you tried to duplicate the bug?

(I tried too, but couldn't get it to do as you described. But may have done it wrongly.)

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My guess is, you used a scroll of transference (or a certain amulet which grants the same spell, or something similar to that) to get in behind the secret passageway which only opens for certain individuals--to see a swirly white portal and get a "You do not have the ability to pass through here" message pop up when trying to enter. Am I right? Smile

And then something odd happened which I can't duplicate. Maybe it's a stand alone thing. o.O
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Re: Weapon change in library

Post by Ramana Jala on Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:05 am

Spoiler:

No, no transference, no hopping over the portal, no message at all. Just walked into it to see where the portal might take me, and I walked through the vfx.

As my char is not a mage, even though as a player I'd never been in that Library before, I had a suspicion that I probably wasn't going into that portal. I was even surprised that the entrance had appeared to me, although it did waver considerably, appearing and disappearing.

But instead I was allowed to walk right through the vfx into the dark area behind it, with a Blazing Staff equipped. Don't recall perfectly, but I think I heard a sound like that pole-whacking noise that happens when one equips or unequips a weapon. And then I walked out again with a Blazing Club in my hand. It persisted like that for the rest of my gaming session, at least. That's all I know.



It's not a very important bug, because how many who are not the appropriate class are going to try to walk into that. (It's just a roguish thing to try every door and portal, lol.) Although I was surprised that it didn't have better unwalkableness, or a message, like you said, for those not suitable to its purpose. And I thought maybe The Amethyst Dragon might want to address that situation.

Since the consequences were fairly harmless, I may try duplicating it sometime again when I get the opportunity.

Really, mostly it just made me curious how an area could revert a weapon to its base item.



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Post by The Amethyst Dragon on Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:11 am

That particular secret door (to the portal) should no longer open to anyone without the Epic Magic feat (with at least one use remaining).

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Re: Weapon change in library

Post by Ramana Jala on Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:22 am

Well, that's good then, thanks!

Though I am still curious about why an area was able to revert a weapon?
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Post by daveyeisley on Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:34 am

I am willing to wager the weapon swap-out was not related to what area the PC was in. Much more likely that some other event triggered it, even if the event was not obvious to the player. I could be wrong, but I would be shocked.
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Re: Weapon change in library

Post by Ramana Jala on Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:18 pm

I think you're right, Dave. I could have sworn that the club reverted back to a staff after the restart, but today I took a look and it was a club appearance.

And when I equipped the other one that was still showing as a Blazing Staff, it also did the pop out of my hands (as if as a staff it was no longer dual-wieldable) and then I saw in the combat log, Item Appearance Updating, Acquired Club, and it also became a Blazing Stick.

So, I maybe was confuzeled, and am sorry, forget whatever I've said. I must have equipped that weapon for the first time since it had been changed, and that's what did it.

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