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Post by Ramana Jala on Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:22 am

MannyJabrielle wrote:I am not sure, but I am thinking perhaps the faction relations happen globally.... so if a commoner/defender faction in one area starts fighting with animals for whatever reason(typically one getting caught in another's AoE while fighting a third faction... typically a player).... ALL commoners/defenders in Aenea go bonkers against animals.
Those AoE spells are dangerous for that... I've been killed several times by my own familiar or companion (not sure if maybe even by summons also) because they suddenly got pissed from being caught in an AoE spell and attacked me. Tends to deter one from using them as 'meat shields', I suppose.

I nearly reported this faction issue yesterday for the reason that I couldn't even get into a convo with Billy Mard (I needed some gem bags) because he couldn't be interrupted from fighting the caravan bisons, and that was really inconvenient to have to wait until after a reset to try again to interact with him. He and a cat were attacking the bison, which made me realize that there must be more than one animal faction, and that for some odd reason the bison seemed to be in the rat/vermin faction. And immortal, which meant that Billy couldn't kill them and therefore end his inavailability.
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Post by Angel of Death on Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:08 am

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MannyJabrielle wrote:I am not sure, but I am thinking perhaps the faction relations happen globally.... so if a commoner/defender faction in one area starts fighting with animals for whatever reason(typically one getting caught in another's AoE while fighting a third faction... typically a player).... ALL commoners/defenders in Aenea go bonkers against animals.
Those AoE spells are dangerous for that... I've been killed several times by my own familiar or companion (not sure if maybe even by summons also) because they suddenly got pissed from being caught in an AoE spell and attacked me. Tends to deter one from using them as 'meat shields', I suppose.

I nearly reported this faction issue yesterday for the reason that I couldn't even get into a convo with Billy Mard (I needed some gem bags) because he couldn't be interrupted from fighting the caravan bisons, and that was really inconvenient to have to wait until after a reset to try again to interact with him. He and a cat were attacking the bison, which made me realize that there must be more than one animal faction, and that for some odd reason the bison seemed to be in the rat/vermin faction. And immortal, which meant that Billy couldn't kill them and therefore end his inavailability.

I stopped Billy from attacking the bisons by making them invisible. When he can't see anyone to attack, he stops automatically. Smile
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Post by Elhanan on Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:31 am

Angel of Death wrote:

I stopped Billy from attacking the bisons by making them invisible. When he can't see anyone to attack, he stops automatically. Smile

Brilliant! sunny
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Re: More NPC reaction problems (civilians and animals fighting) (split)

Post by Ramana Jala on Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:01 am


Yep, brilliant, AoD ! cheers
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Re: More NPC reaction problems (civilians and animals fighting) (split)

Post by RustyDios on Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:07 pm

The difference between good and evil...

Good > Make the bison invisible so Billy cant see them...

Evil > Cause blindness is Billy so he can't see them...

Either way.... absolutely brilliant solution...
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Re: More NPC reaction problems (civilians and animals fighting) (split)

Post by MannyJabrielle on Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:02 pm

Non magic using Aeneans must be neutral then. They just let things be as they are.
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Post by Eric of Atrophy on Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:31 pm

Kill the bison. Kill billy. problem solved.
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Post by MannyJabrielle on Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:19 pm

Kill Bill? Wriggle your big toe Razz
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Re: More NPC reaction problems (civilians and animals fighting) (split)

Post by Angel of Death on Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:09 am

RustyDios wrote:The difference between good and evil...

Good > Make the bison invisible so Billy cant see them...

Evil > Cause blindness is Billy so he can't see them...

Either way.... absolutely brilliant solution...

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Re: More NPC reaction problems (civilians and animals fighting) (split)

Post by Ramana Jala on Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:19 am

Eric of Atrophy wrote:Kill the bison. Kill billy. problem solved.
My mage did try to kill the bison. They are apparently immortal.

Killing Billy, if it be even possible, would still make me wait until the reset to buy from him.


Uncertain if making Billy invisible would stop him, since he's the aggressor.

But I will try making the bison invisible next time.
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Post by Ramana Jala on Sat Mar 30, 2013 12:08 pm


Today I found an unusual situation in Macedone. Instead of the usual case of hostility between the Guard faction and the Vermin faction, we had hostility between the Guard faction and the Commoners/Domestic Animals faction.

While I watched, the guards ran down and killed every dog, kitty-cat, goat, and Commoner in the town, until the Merchants and the Guards were the only NPCs left in the city.
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Post by Angel of Death on Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:35 am

Just noticed today, while going through the dark realm, that balors and beholders does not get along at all (probably nothing unusually, but thought I would report it anyway). Razz

While wandering through the Gauntlet I also noticed that the marilith dervishes, barbed demons and dark reavers doesn't like balors much either...

Another thing I noticed in the Gauntlet is that all the encounters triggers the traps laid out in the area. Don't know if that's intended or not...
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Post by Lasombra on Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:10 am

The same thing happens in the mindflayer areas - slaves are being randomly beat up on, umber hulks fight eyes and occasionally mindsuckers as well i think.

Also, some silverfist dwarves in the halls are adamant on beating up on some poor doors. Specifically the ones leading to the dragon - they gather around it, making it impossible to go through and just bully it for whatever reason.
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Post by Ramana Jala on Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:03 am


I wonder if that dragon in the dwarven halls spontaneously lets off some AoE spell from time to time, that would account for faction issues.

But I've found the dwarves not only trying to destroy that gate door, but also fighting each other in the area. Which I don't understand at all, since I thought that faction issues make the entire faction go one way, not individuals separately. I witnessed an amusing brawl between a male and a female dwarf, and it just kept going and wouldn't stop, because they both seemed uninjurable.

BTW, that one non-hostile Umber Hulk, Kasok Squideater, in the area above the mindflayer enclave, I do believe is totally supposed to fight the other umber hulks and the mind flayers.

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Post by Lasombra on Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:12 am

Not sure, but they weren't hostile toward him.

About Kasok I know, I meant areas beneath that one.
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Post by MannyJabrielle on Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:16 am

Those dwarves were just enjoying a good brawl after a hearty round of ale... Wink
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Post by Ramana Jala on Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:08 am


Yesterday my scout went into the drow complex under the prairie to test out some weapons, and when she finally got to the middle room, she found the wizard and his half-orc minion dead and the murderer of sorgath with a bubble of invincibility on, defending himself from all of the snakes in the room.

I just stood in the shadows and watched as he got whittled on by the snakes, and did my job for me in killing every last snake. He even called up a couple of elementals to help him run down the last of the snakes. It was quite ironically and karmically amusing.

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