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Post by monsinyana on Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:48 am

I've seen this Bug twice now over two resets.

How to recreate it:

When I travel up to Macedonia everything is fine. The animals and NPCs do not attack Mouse or Rat

BUT if I go to Mountainholm the bug starts at the caravan. The dog begins to attack the Bison. Then when you move towards Mountainholm cats, NPCs, etc. all go on a Rat and Mouse killing rampage.

If I then travel to Macedonia all the animals and NPCs are going crazy and attack every Mouse and Rat they see.
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Re: Faction Bug

Post by Ramana Jala on Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:08 am


Yeah, that Animal/Commoner versus Vermin faction situation has been around for a while.

You'll see this happen every once in a while, and I'm not sure that we actually consider it a bug.

I tend to just think of it as a cropping up of public enmity against Vermin.


I only wonder if those bison are improperly in the Vermin faction rather than in the dog's Animal faction, where one would think they should be.
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Re: Faction Bug

Post by monsinyana on Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:49 am

Whatever is triggering it, it happens when one goes to Mountainholm.

They don't attack the vermin in Macedonia until you go to Mountainholm.
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Re: Faction Bug

Post by Ramana Jala on Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:06 pm


That's an interesting observation, perhaps that clue might be of some use to discover how it starts.
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Re: Faction Bug

Post by The Amethyst Dragon on Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:00 pm

I'll check on it today.  My suspicion is that is starts with the cats in Mountainholm Castle that hunt down and take out the mice.

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Re: Faction Bug

Post by monsinyana on Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:55 pm

I'll test it again next reset. I'll go to Macedonia first, then to Mountainholm, then back to Macedonia to see if they flip out.
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Re: Faction Bug

Post by The Amethyst Dragon on Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:05 pm

Working on adding a bunch of new factions right now.  One of which will be for cats, another for "small prey", so that when the cats hunt the mice other factions shouldn't have a fit, even if in the same area.

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Re: Faction Bug

Post by monsinyana on Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:11 pm

The Amethyst Dragon wrote:Working on adding a bunch of new factions right now.  One of which will be for cats, another for "small prey", so that when the cats hunt the mice other factions shouldn't have a fit, even if in the same area.

That's what I was going to suggest but didn't know if adding Factions contributed to lag Smile

Yeah a 'Hunter' faction would be a good catchall for any kind of stalkers/ predators Smile
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Re: Faction Bug

Post by Ramana Jala on Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:42 am


I went by Mountainholme today and saw a funny sight.  The Commoners are running away from the mice!

I tested it by bringing a mouse over near some commoners and releasing it.  They all ran away from the mouse.  Laughing
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Re: Faction Bug

Post by RustyDios on Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:39 am

Maybe there is a version of "Carnivorous Mice" that we adventurers don't know about... I mean most common folk run away from the chicken variety ..... *



*Not actually based on in-game information .. just making a light joke Smile
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Re: Faction Bug

Post by MannyJabrielle on Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:42 am

Maybe they just have the heebiejeebies about dirty little disease carrying rodents....

Like seriously, you see a gaggle of mice and rats strolling through your local market, do you keep on shopping or find a new place to get your food?  Granted that dwarf in Mtholme's open market is only selling camping equipment, but still....
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Re: Faction Bug

Post by monsinyana on Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:38 pm

MannyJabrielle wrote:Maybe they just have the heebiejeebies about dirty little disease carrying rodents....

Like seriously, you see a gaggle of mice and rats strolling through your local market, do you keep on shopping or find a new place to get your food?  Granted that dwarf in Mtholme's open market is only selling camping equipment, but still....

Did you know Mountainholm was used as a filming location in Nosferatu the Vampyre (1979)?

http://youtu.be/Qcm1DYtGPNE?t=1m41s

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Re: Faction Bug

Post by odbo255 on Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:22 am

^^^Good one.
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