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Post by The Amethyst Dragon on Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:51 am

Just to give everyone a visual, at the end of the defragmention of the server's HD tonight there was one file that could not be defragmented...everything in red is the database file just for the ethereal chests.  Shocked

You'd think they were popular or something.


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Post by RustyDios on Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:00 pm

Guilty!.. I'm sure that between them my "clan" must account for at least a small percentage of that red block !
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Post by MannyJabrielle on Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:53 pm

I am curious has to how much each item in a chest is worth size wise on the disk.
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Post by The Amethyst Dragon on Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:34 pm

MannyJabrielle wrote:I am curious has to how much each item in a chest is worth size wise on the disk.
Probably very, very little.  My guess is likely no more than 10-15 kb (just judging based on some of the largest item blueprint file sizes).

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Post by MannyJabrielle on Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:31 pm

Damn.... so even if every item were the larger, that's still just under 70,000 items packed away in the chests....

Just worked out the math, the *maximum* you can stuff an echest with is about 5,000 separate items, not including the containers themselves, or items "equipped" to the chest (cloak, 2 rings, boots, ect, including a belt of vials/belt of many pouches for an additional 35 inventory squares of storage....
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Post by Ramana Jala on Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:07 am

I've been trying to whittle down my chest contents as I get upgrades done.  I've already begun clearing out things for which I've finally become familiar enough with all the upgrades to know that those certain odd rare things won't be required.  What am I ever going to use a balor skull for, after all?

Thank you The Amethyst Dragon for providing the echests, otherwise upgrades would be so much more difficult to assemble.
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Post by Angel of Death on Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:02 pm

Ramana Jala wrote:What am I ever going to use a balor skull for, after all?

I haven't played a Necromancer here yet, so don't know if it's already available to them; but I think it would be cool if they could summon an undead balor with those skulls with the more powerful summon spells.  Twisted Evil 
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Post by odbo255 on Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:25 pm

MannyJabrielle wrote:Damn.... so even if every item were the larger, that's still just under 70,000 items packed away in the chests....

Just worked out the math, the *maximum* you can stuff an echest with is about 5,000 separate items, not including the containers themselves, or items "equipped" to the chest (cloak, 2 rings, boots, ect, including a belt of vials/belt of many pouches for an additional 35 inventory squares of storage....

Fren perhaps has as many as 10K items in her chest. She uses gem pouches on the last two "blank" pages. That is unless you only count a stack of something as "1". If stacks aren't counted individually then shes probably closer to 3K.
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Post by MannyJabrielle on Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:31 pm

Stacks are only counted as 1.

Each container holds 35 squares of inventory. 15 2x2 containers per inventory panel with 6 inventory panels of boxes, plus 60 gem ouches plus one container-belt equipped to the chest itself.... 5285 squares of storage space.  Containers and pouches themselves count as 1 item, so add aother 151 to that, 5436, plus the other equip slots on the chest, 5448 item total per chest, assuming every item other than containers and "equiped" items are 1x1 Smile

Characters can hold much much more obviously with being able to stuff ALL panes of their inventory with gempouches rather than 2x2 containers.

12 equipped items, plus 359 pouches and one equiped container belt.... 12600 inventory squares of storage for 12972 items per PC.  That's for a fighter or such with no other undroppable widgets/items besides the database item.
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Post by monsinyana on Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:30 pm

Hey youre only supposed to be storing gems in your gem pouches you cheaters!
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Post by RustyDios on Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:40 am

Really?.. In the Get Everything Miniaturised pouches ?.... I thought you could stuff what you wanted in them Smile
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Post by monsinyana on Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:51 am

RustyDios wrote:Really?.. In the Get Everything Miniaturised pouches ?.... I thought you could stuff what you wanted in them Smile

If you rename it an "Everything Miniaturized Pouch" then i guess that would be ok. But I'm still suspect!

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Post by RustyDios on Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:35 am

GEM is a Three Letter Abbreviation for Get Everything Miniaturized ...
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Re: I think Ethereal Chests might be popular

Post by Ramana Jala on Fri Apr 25, 2014 7:10 am


MannyJabrielle wrote:
Characters can hold much much more obviously with being able to stuff ALL panes of their inventory with gempouches rather than 2x2 containers.

Up to the character's weight limit, of course.  Those bags have no weight reduction.

Even as generous with the storage space as The Amethyst Dragon has been, I think that we won't be seeing that limitation change.Razz


BTW, I'm proud to say that both of my characters are now maintaining their personal inventories below 700 items (the limit around or above which that saving a character to local backup won't work).
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Post by MannyJabrielle on Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:40 pm

You can go past the weight limit.

You just won't be going very fast Razz
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Post by odbo255 on Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:45 pm

MannyJabrielle wrote:You can go past the weight limit.

You just won't be going very fast Razz

Not true, just use flight, transference, and teleport for all of the PCs movement.

That'd be an interesting exercise.... lolz
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Post by monsinyana on Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:01 pm

RustyDios wrote:GEM is a Three Letter Abbreviation for Get Everything Miniaturized ...

You win the interwebs!

 lol! 
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Post by Angel of Death on Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:28 am

odbo255 wrote:
MannyJabrielle wrote:You can go past the weight limit.

You just won't be going very fast Razz

Not true, just use flight, transference, and teleport for all of the PCs movement.

That'd be an interesting exercise.... lolz

That what makes people get into Wizardry; it's not the unlimited thirst for knowledge or anything like that, but to nullify the need for moving around by traditionally means.  tongue

Sorcerers on the other hand are born with the natural talent to be lazy. Razz 
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Post by Eric of Atrophy on Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:54 pm

MannyJabrielle wrote:Damn.... so even if every item were the larger, that's still just under 70,000 items packed away in the chests....

Just worked out the math, the *maximum* you can stuff an echest with is about 5,000 separate items, not including the containers themselves, or items "equipped" to the chest (cloak, 2 rings, boots, ect, including a belt of vials/belt of many pouches for an additional 35 inventory squares of storage....
I never realized that you could "equip" items to the chest's equipment slots ...thanks for that juicy tidbit, MannyJabrielle!
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