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Post by Ceorlas Tue May 07, 2013 5:15 am

** Or at least Berenice Foyrin would be back if only I could get her past the Black Screen of "Oh You Are Soooo Not Wanted Here" that results in server timeout.

I can see and select her in char vault but play drops her into a total black void. I can alt-tab to Task Manager to end NWN or wait for time-out to drop back to NWN start-up screen.

I have made a new char .. Aefrith .. (very nice touch on select parent type for half-elves) and have been rooting around quite nicely, apart from nearly freezing to death trying to locate Smitty. Mad And being robbed by that conniving priestess of Ralth who took 125g and then said the item was too magical for her to identify. Evil or Very Mad Total Msorrih (oops pardon my Fae).

So. No problems with Aenea logging in via NWNCX (apart from an instance of camera becoming completely disassociated from char at log-in). The problem I suspect will be Beren's build .. some changes making her person not grated (ya, that's a cheesy dog-latin pun. The kind that makes you want to B-ARF !! B-ARF!!).

If she can be fixed then all will be apples. If not I can remake her. We have the technology after all. Though what about re-assigning her dojo to a new Berenice ? Possible? Would Foyrin to Feuerin be sufficient change to avoid char overlap buggerups?

Anygate, I'll be trotting around with Aefrith and maybe some others. So Big Wave to all the Un-usual Suspects who know me, Kefrem especially if he's still around?

See ya'll soon.

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Post by MannyJabrielle Tue May 07, 2013 5:23 am

What is her build currently?

Are you using the custom dialog.tlk off the homepage? If so does it give you a boot message when you try to log her in?
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Post by Ceorlas Tue May 07, 2013 5:57 am

Resurrected lvl 16 Monk/Sorc?

Yup got all the most recent listed files new downloaded & re-installed.

It did fling up a message on her first log in to Astral Wotsit but it was so small a font & so fast i could not read it. Long line of tiny white text is all I saw.
When I was dropped back to NWN start-up there was a message to the effect "you were booted" overlaid on it. Had to task manager my way out of NWN from there.

edit: in case of relevance she is half-drow, or mebbe half-elf played as half-drow.

edit2: thanx for the attempt (Manny I assume) .. nice try to bust her back to cleric 1 but still no dice.
Bit more info :half-elf. Was cleric monk now cleric 1. All I could find to indicate her drow half was Darkvision feat which does not include any aspect of her in its requirements. She may now have 'excess' feats wrt her level/xp ?
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Post by Angel of Death Tue May 07, 2013 11:04 am

It might have already been covered...but are you using a different CDKey/game installation than you originally used to play with?

There's a script in place which boots players if their public cdkey doesn't match their gamespy login they logged in with on Aenea the first time.


Also. Welcome back! cheers
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Post by Ceorlas Tue May 07, 2013 12:14 pm

Excellent point Angel.

Berenice was made on a boxed set of NWN, SoU & HoTU from 6 or so years back. Having misplaced my NWN disc I am now using GoG's digital D/L Diamond Edition.. so yup .. I expect it will be a different key. Certainly a totally new installation.
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Post by MannyJabrielle Tue May 07, 2013 3:39 pm

I didn't do anything Razz If her levels were busted down, another DM attempted that fix, or something else happened. If it's something about her levels getting her booted, I can't imagine what... cleric and sorc are pretty standard, and haven't really changed over the last several years.

Turn on log recording, and that should capture the text to a txt file when you try to log Berenice in and get booted.

If it is the CD key issue, The Amethyst Dragon has a way to fix that. I had that problem as well when I got back to Aenea after a long hiatus.
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Post by Ceorlas Tue May 07, 2013 4:48 pm

turn on log recording ..

k, i give up .. how is this done & what does it produce & where does it get hidden ?
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Post by MannyJabrielle Tue May 07, 2013 5:02 pm

In your nwn install directory, the logs would be in the logs folder. And to set if the game records logs or not, open the nwnplayer.ini file. Check for the line "ClientEntireChatWindowLogging" under the [Game Options] section. If it's there, change the value from 0 to 1 (if it's not set to 1 already). If it's not... add the line (ClientEntireChatWindowLogging=1).

Also, Alundaio's DC launcher has the option to rename logs as you play so it's easier to find the log for a specific playing time Smile
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Post by Ceorlas Tue May 07, 2013 5:31 pm

Right.. I was on the right track .. thanks for the confirm but ..

NWNclientError1.txt stays blank for both Aef & Beren
NWNclientLog1.txt is blank for Beren but shows all info for Aef including speech and server notifications ( eg Eric logged in as I made Aef's test).

Beren simply does not get to Aenea .. server timeout = no data to record.

It's all down to Great Purple One .. thanks for trying Smile
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Post by Ceorlas Mon May 20, 2013 6:00 am

hokay so ..

I just tried to log in with Berenice .. on the off-chance she was fixed .. and instead of being held then booted with a server timeout message I got an immediate boot with the new message of RETIRED CHARACTER .. unplayable and please log in with another char.

Hmm, ok .. I don't remember retiring her but it has been a long time since I played regular so ..

What happens with her Dojo?
If I have her deleted (can't use her afterall) will it be possible to transfer 'ownership' of The Conflagration, and especially the private passworded doors, to a new, remade Berenice?

Edit:
As an additional idea: the 'new, remade Berenice' could be a newly appointed replacement following Berenice's retirement. This char can then be totally different in all respects; Name, Race or even Gender. The only absolute must is to be Cleric of Conflagral.
Would this arrangement make it easier to avoid 'similar name' errors in the Database?
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Post by RustyDios Mon May 20, 2013 6:59 am

Ceorlas wrote:
What happens with her Dojo?
If I have her deleted (can't use her afterall) will it be possible to transfer 'ownership' of The Conflagration, and especially the private passworded doors, to a new, remade Berenice?

Edit:
As an additional idea: the 'new, remade Berenice' could be a newly appointed replacement following Berenice's retirement. This char can then be totally different in all respects; Name, Race or even Gender. The only absolute must is to be Cleric of Conflagral.
Would this arrangement make it easier to avoid 'similar name' errors in the Database?

If the dojo is using the new spoken Passworded doors then anyone with the correct password can open them. Ownership then falls down to a) RP and b) protecting your password *... the game doesn't state any passwords that are spoken after the ;;password command so hiding your passwords is relatively easy... it only really becomes a problem if your tell others the password and what they decide to do with it ~ fortunately Aenea players are respectful of each other and we have very little "griefing"... ..

As for the name/database why not call her Berenice xxSurnamexx .... this would count as an entirely different name for the database as far as I know, whilst preserving all the previous references to "Berenice", the only thing you'd end up loosing would be custom items/exp/stuff gained/etc ...

* and c) asking The Amethyst Dragon to give your "new" player the journal entry if you desire it ?
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Post by Ceorlas Mon May 20, 2013 8:19 am

The dojo is open for public use in most areas except the actual passworded doors in the NE corner .. private quarters for the Incumbent basically. Allows rooms to rest in, a working library (scroll crafting), and a trainining area with a couple dummies plus an audible gong for timed 'Training bouts'.( RP only - Sunglory Arena is the only viable CvC combat area). Plus other amenities (conveniences too ) for RP. So the only password situation applies to a new char becoming the Incumbent, and thus responsible for the Dojo's upkeep, maintenance etc; and Kefrem's Shi'ssar who had her own room (and possibly his own password on that door).

And they would need journal entry cos .. I've forgotten the password Embarassed

xxSurnameXX: Shocked
I see this so many times in various rp games and it sets even my teeth on edge. And I have full dentures Very Happy.
So .. no. It's a viable workaround for game mechanics but not to my liking in displayed names.

Items/stuff/Xp .. it's all gone already. No point fretting there.

The more I consider, the more I like the idea of a totally new and different character to take over following Berenice's very real Retirement. If it can be done.
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Post by Eric of Atrophy Mon May 20, 2013 7:25 pm

I see no reason why this can't be accomplished.
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Post by Caldor Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:02 pm

Holy Smoke, how did I miss this??? Ceorlas, I hope you're still on! You were an early mentor to me!
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Post by Eric of Atrophy Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:30 pm

Just looking at his last forum login date, it was back in 2013. But maybe he's been in-game since ...
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Post by daveyeisley Wed Jun 08, 2016 5:12 pm

Hey Caldor, if there are ever any topics you have interest in discussing or having explained in greater detail, just throw up a simple thread on the Player Questions board.

That said, I have not see Ceorlas in some time, and indeed he ranks among the many whom I have missed seeing online.
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Post by Eric of Atrophy Sun Jun 12, 2016 4:31 pm

Well, Ceorlas made a screeenshot post this morning, so looks like he's back after all!
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Post by Ceorlas Sun Jun 12, 2016 7:30 pm

Woaarrr! I been rumbled!

No point sneaking around now then, eh!
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Post by Eric of Atrophy Mon Jun 13, 2016 6:28 pm

Welcome back, old timer!
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Post by daveyeisley Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:56 pm

Hah! Good to hear from you, sir Smile
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Post by Caldor Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:22 pm

daveyeisley wrote:Hey Caldor, if there are ever any topics you have interest in discussing or having explained in greater detail, just throw up a simple thread on the Player Questions board.

That said, I have not see Ceorlas in some time, and indeed he ranks among the many whom I have missed seeing online.



Thank you, Dave. I'll do that.

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