Used: There's a "sheild and spear" style, but....

.. has anyone else taken notice of the fact that there's no spears that can be used with a shield?

http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Hakpaks.Detail&id=7457

1-handed spears, off-hand whip usage, perhaps this would be a great adaption to add into Aenea?

I really like the dual whip idea

Me like.

I like the on-handed spear and dual whips.. but not the two-handed bastards or katanas.. making thing go one-handed is fine, but making one-handed stuff go two handed will really mess up any dual-wielding katana/bastard masters out there...

The two handed swords part is an optional part of the mod

Brilliant... I missed that on my first read-through... can this be added in to Aenea then ?... That would be ace... Dual-weilded whips slavemasters, "300 style spartan orcs" (I'm thinking of Sparta Orcs here with tartan cloaks and kilts, kinda somewhere inbetween Normal Orcs and Destroyers).... and the spear becomes a useful NWN item again..

Please..

Ok so my idea was something like this dude..



Obviously made much better by 's unique Aenea flair..

And from what I can see, adding in dual whips and single hand spears would require the following two lines replacement in the baseitems.2da:
(I edited them to have a max of 255 appearances, in acordance with 90% of all Aenea stuff).. ((for clarity this is lines 58 and 111))

58 1552 shortspear 1 4 0x1C030 1 2 WPlSs 0 1 1 1 it_bag iwplss 0 **** 1 3 **** 1.4 10 255 1 6 1 2 1 1 1 2 1672 15 8 0 0 1 46 48 **** **** **** 4 0 0 5401 0 1 30 17 **** **** **** 5 5 95 76 1



111 83617 Whip 2 2 0x1c030 0 2 WWhip 0 1 1 1 it_bag iwwhip 0 **** 3 2 **** 1.7 10 255 1 2 1 2 1 1 1 2 85392 32 8 0 0 1 44 **** **** **** **** 4 0 0 85391 0 1 20 19 **** **** **** 100 100 0 74 1


.... so next planned reset can we whip out our whipS.. and thrust forth our 300 spears ?? .. Pretty please...

I do plan on adding the whips and spears modifications. It won't be for a simple reset though, as I have to make the change in the aeneahak_updates.hak file for everyone for it to take effect.

Next time I make changes to that hak file though...

Ace!!

And staves? In my opinion thy are too big and for example gnome mages can't use them

Veenkar wrote:And staves? In my opinion thy are too big and for example gnome mages can't use them

Quarterstaves are large weapons and so are too unwieldy for the smaller races (but I feel where you're coming from, being a big gnome fan myself). Magic staves, on the other hand, are only considered medium weapons and capable of being used by anyone (they can even be used for two-weapon fighting if you're medium sized )

no i only meant gnome mages cant use magic staves

Doesn't Vizzini (gnome wizard) use magic staves when he feels like it?

Small races can use magic staves.... they are two-handed for them though, while medium sized races can weild them one handed

There have been two types of tridents.
One is CEP and the other is bioware.
They do different damage amounts and have different critical rate, but one can be used with a shield and the other is a two-handed weapon.

but i still cant use staves like Acid quaterstaff (aviable to buy at Holy Magi of Mystra) while i can normally carry other staves such as staff of Magi.

But they are both staves... so how is it possible?

The issue is that, technically, they're not both staves, at least not in the same way. The Acidic Quarterstaff is a quarterstaff, which is a large weapon, while the Staff of the Magi is actually considered a magic staff, which is medium sized as far as NWN is concerned. Both fall under the weapons heading in the Aurora Toolset, but quarterstaves are under the "Double-sided" sub-heading (even though they can only be used single-sided) and magic staves fall under the "Mage Specific: Staves" sub-heading. You may also want to note that while you can take weapon specific feats for the quarterstaff (i.e. Weapon Focus, Improved Critical, etc.), these feats won't be applied to any magic staves that you may use.

Ra Cha Chongo wrote:...while you can take weapon specific feats for the quarterstaff (i.e. Weapon Focus, Improved Critical, etc.), these feats won't be applied to any magic staves that you may use.

Actually, thanks for bringing this up. I've always wondered about this.

Ra Cha Chongo wrote:The issue is that, technically, they're not both staves, at least not in the same way. The Acidic Quarterstaff is a quarterstaff, which is a large weapon, while the Staff of the Magi is actually considered a magic staff, which is medium sized as far as NWN is concerned. Both fall under the weapons heading in the Aurora Toolset, but quarterstaves are under the "Double-sided" sub-heading (even though they can only be used single-sided) and magic staves fall under the "Mage Specific: Staves" sub-heading. You may also want to note that while you can take weapon specific feats for the quarterstaff (i.e. Weapon Focus, Improved Critical, etc.), these feats won't be applied to any magic staves that you may use.

This information is correct. Nice post!

Thanks!

Glad I could help!

I can't really take full credit though; NWN Wiki is extremely helpful in, among other things, finding the points where Neverwinter Nights diverges from common sense