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Post by The Amethyst Dragon Sat Apr 04, 2009 3:23 am

This requires the latest updates (April 4th) to the aeneahak_updates.hak and aenea.tlk files, now available for download.

This addition is a way for your character to be "reborn", giving up all money, items, levels, etc. in return for the chance to basically start over at low level with some nice bonuses and abilities. It is only available for level 40 characters. Reincarnation is first. Ascension is basically the same thing, only it's only open for level 40 characters that have already reincarnated once.

Reincarnation:

- For level 40 characters only
- Give up basically everything gained for a restart with some bonuses.
- Restart at 1st level with 6,000 XP and 2,000 gp
- Get skill (+5) and save bonuses (+1), plus scaling spell resistance (1/level if no subrace SR)
- Get regeneration (1/round)
- Subrace changes to "Reincarnated X", but old subrace stats remain.
- New feats added at 1st level just for the Reincarnated
- - - Gift of Flight (fly like a winged being for 3 hp/flight)
- - - Gift of Travel (teleport 2/day)
- - - Gift of Time (a semi-timestop in an area for 1d6 rounds 1/day...enemies get a Will save (DC 10 + 1/2 reincarnated's new levels) but no immunity/spell resistance)

Custom reward items: destroyed during the process, but a second "timer" starts over with 8 hours right at reincarnation to earn new rewards.

Ascension:

- For level 40 reincarnated characters only
- Subrace changes to "Ascended X", still retain original subrace changes
- The same as reincarnation, but also you also gain:
- - - immunity to death magic, disease, poison, and critical hits
- - - fire/cold resistance 10
- - - skill bonuses increase to +10, save bonus increases to +3
- - - access to the "levitate" combat style normally given only to epic Wiz/Sor

Custom reward items: destroyed during the process, but a second "timer" starts over with 8 hours right at ascension to earn new rewards.

I had originally wanted to "store" custom reward items, but with over 200 of them in the game now, many with no clear record of who the items originally belong(ed) to, I decided that the best thing to do as a builder/scripter is to get rid of the items and make it so the "reborn" characters can get brand new custom items as they adventure, perhaps more suited to the different paths their new lives may take them along.

If you are are a level 40 character that wants to reincarnate, you can borrow a boat in Watertown to sail to the middle of the Lake of Mists.

Once again, because reincarnation & ascension use feats, you need to have the latest aeneahak_updates.hak and aenea.tlk files.
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Post by MannyJabrielle Sat Apr 04, 2009 4:16 am

Excellent!

With the custom items, would it help if when we reincarnate a character, we send a PM listing their custom items so they could be removed from the palette? It may help clean up the list a bit, especially if the character will be receiving new items.

Or if possible, could the character receive the custom items they already designed when they hit the mark for that said voucher item? (IOW, when a character reaches the 20K voucher mark, could they receive their old voucher item again instead of designing a whole new one?)
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Post by Svair Sat Apr 04, 2009 5:40 am

I'm game...

...but how do I go about "reincarnating" my 40th level PC? Is the someplace I should go?

And I have less then 4 hrs until I get my current PC's 256 hr Custom Item...what is your advise?
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Post by Ra Cha Chongo Sat Apr 04, 2009 7:21 am

What about semi-classes? Do they get erased and start over too?
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Post by The Amethyst Dragon Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:44 am

The Amethyst Dragon wrote:If you are are a level 40 character that wants to reincarnate, you can borrow a boat in Watertown to sail to the middle of the Lake of Mists

Semi-Classes are removed.

Custom items: sure, you have let me know which ones are yours so I can remove them from the game. Also, if you want to, you can use a new voucher for your old item.
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Post by Ra Cha Chongo Sat Apr 04, 2009 11:09 am

Two more (not that Vizzini's anywhere near 40th yet lol):

Does your journal reset so you can redo quests?

Are ability increases from manuals and tomes erased?
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Post by MannyJabrielle Sat Apr 04, 2009 11:39 am

With the tomes, I wouldn't think so, since the character is essentially reduced back to level 1.... I've used releveler scales that do that as well, and the tome upgrades stayed.
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Post by MannyJabrielle Sun Apr 05, 2009 1:26 am

Tome and warhulk boosts aren't removed.

Other issues with reincarnation though, posted in the bugs forum
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Post by daveyeisley Sun Apr 05, 2009 12:50 pm

*very* cool.

if i wasnt sick as a dog right now, i would be trying to reincarnate crid...
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Post by Svair Sun Apr 05, 2009 1:18 pm

daveyeisley wrote:*very* cool.

if i wasnt sick as a dog right now, i would be trying to reincarnate crid...

It is very cool! Hope you feel better soon...

It took me 7 months to get to 40th level last time. Now with school from 10-7:00 PM, I'll be occupied for a year before I start the Ascension path....:-)

I'm very excited about 'starting over'. I was very happy with my 1st time through, and look forward to revisiting old places and finding new ones.

If you are are a level 40 character that wants to reincarnate, you can
borrow a boat in Watertown to sail to the middle of the Lake of Mists

Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed - Doh! Sorry The Amethyst Dragon.
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Post by MannyJabrielle Tue May 12, 2009 4:38 pm

Question about Reincarnation/ascension and quests...

Aurora already did the prophecy in her first 40 levels. now reincarnated, when she tries to forge Hope Reborn, she gets told that she's already fullfilled the prophecy.

Is it a 1 time thing per character regardless of reincarnation/ascension resetting all quests? Not being able to get Gron's belt can be somewhat of a big let-down for STR based characters, as Gron's is the only one of that power level.
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Post by RustyDios Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:11 pm

* Bump

Can we get an updated/consildated re-incarnation/ascention thread with all the new rules and get it stickied into the FAQ section ?
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Post by Elhanan Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:55 pm

RustyDios wrote:* Bump

Can we get an updated/consildated re-incarnation/ascention thread with all the new rules and get it stickied into the FAQ section ?

Ditto. Arrow

Plus we of the uninformed ranks may need to know what is required to make such a trek, and have the characters ready for when these features are repaired and deemed fit to use again.
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Post by daveyeisley Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:00 pm

To my knowledge reincarnation and ascension were working OK for the most part, no?

I agree on the need for an FAQ post, but to my knowledge only some minor bonuses were broken at this point.... such as the heat/cold resistance and the gift of time and travel feats.
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Post by Elhanan Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:04 pm

I thought that The Amethyst Dragon mentioned putting these on hold while something was being repaired, as I was awaiting his Official okee-dokee when he returned. Being Techless, I was certainly not willling to bet all my things on a hopeful leap on the matter.
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Post by evilkittenofdoom Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:07 am

What happens to learned Epic Magic spells in regards to reincarnation/ascension?

They tend to be rather expensive, and I would not like to invest too much if I am going to lose them. Razz
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Post by daveyeisley Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:50 pm

I believe the epic spells are cleared when you reincarnate or ascend
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Post by Angel of Death Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:20 pm

evilkittenofdoom wrote:What happens to learned Epic Magic spells in regards to reincarnation/ascension?

They tend to be rather expensive, and I would not like to invest too much if I am going to lose them. Razz

daveyeisley wrote:I believe the epic spells are cleared when you reincarnate or ascend

^ Bumping this thread ...wanted a confirmation of the above. Smile

If it currently work the way dave said, I'd add the suggestion/idea that if a PC who previously invested in epic magic creation, decides to reincarnate/ascend and take the same path as they chose last (aka get epic level in their spellcaster class again) they would regain access to their epic spells.
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