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Post by Raising_Cain on Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:38 pm

This is probably going to just be a general suggestion thread for Tollkeepers since I just made one and I love the idea of the class -
Could the class get Appraise as a Class Skill? Since they get a bonus to appraise, it seems odd that Appraise has to be crossclassed. Maybe Taunt, and Intimidate too?
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Post by The Amethyst Dragon on Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:18 am

After the next hak update (sometime in July, most likely), there will be some class/cross-class swapping:

Becoming class skills:
- appraise (because they have to know what's valuable to trade tolls for coins for coins to get rolls
- intimidate (because they're intimidating...it's part of their thing)
- taunt (to get fools to fight so they can get more than a regular toll)

Becoming cross-class skills:
- concentration (they're not spellcasters, what do they have to concentrate on?)
- craft armor (who needs armor when you've got a quarterstaff to hit people and shield yourself?)
- craft trap (they're not rogues or rangers setting traps)

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Post by MannyJabrielle on Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:55 pm

Concentration is not a caster only skill.

It's a class skill for fighters, barbarians, monks, and other non-caster fighting classes as well.  It's the opposed skill in taunt checks.  It would be very odd that tollkeepers would be good at taunting... and suck at resisting taunts thrown back at them.
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Post by A_Vagabond on Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:15 am

Concentration is not a barbarian class skill.

I guess they're all assumed to have some level of ADHD?
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Post by Ramana Jala on Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:49 am


It doesn't seem that unreasonable to me that a barbarian can fail a taunt directed at them.  Being able to effectively challenge the parentage of an opponent doesn't necessarily mean that one won't succumb to enragement for a similiar insult himself.

Or if not the same type of insult, another type might punch that rage button.  Remember Scotty in the original Star Trek, who withstood all insults to himself and his captain, but then lost it when the Klingon said that the Enterprise should be hauled away as garbage.
 lol!

I grant the point that Concentration is legitimately a class skill for fighter types.  But maybe the lack of the respondent ability to resist a Taunt with Concentration, is actually deliberate for Barbarians.  Reckless aggression and lack of rational focus seems to go hand-in-hand.  Razz



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Post by The Amethyst Dragon on Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:51 am

Just because someone can dish out abuse doesn't mean they can shrug it off. Tollkeepers are basically blusterous bullies that are good with a quarterstaff. Razz

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