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Monk Help
Hye guys I am going through with reincarnation, and was looking to try something different with my monk. As of right now my monk looks like this (Fighter 4, Ironheart 10, Monk 26) I like the other two (Fighter and Ironheart for what they both bring to the table respectively, Fighter bringing an extra attck per round, and more likelyhood of hitting, and Ironheart for AC/Immunities.
I am looking for help with this.
If you don;t know Bram...Where have you been...lol. He is a monk of stealth, I would like to keep this.
Thank You.
I am looking for help with this.
If you don;t know Bram...Where have you been...lol. He is a monk of stealth, I would like to keep this.
Thank You.
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How about combine monk with rogue? You get monk speed, AC, saves, rapid strike, knockdown, stun attacks plus rogue sneak attacks, skill points, and stealth. You could alternate leveling to keep things well balanced, or focus on one or the other for the more desired features first.
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Shadowdancer wouldn't hurt, either, for HiPS.
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It could be a little tricky to do, depending on Bram's charisma.... but you could also try dropping the fighter and going paladin. Paladin/Monk is a very solid combo in itself, and with the right cha boosting gear, your saves go thru the roof... *plus* if you split up your 3rd and 4th Paladin levels so that they are on feat levels, you can gain Divine Shield and Divine Might, which are both a *ton* of fun. Paladins also get fear and disease immunity, and the same AB as fighters.
Only thing you will really lose is 3 fighter bonus feats and access to weapon specialization.
Only thing you will really lose is 3 fighter bonus feats and access to weapon specialization.
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Bram has Dalix as a patron deity though? Taking paladin (and champ of dalix) requires patron deity to be Dalix
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Not dalix...Lysis
Charisma is currently an 8
Charisma is currently an 8
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Well, screwed on both counts, then
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well when i reincarnate don't I get to put the points where I want them?
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No. reincarnation only delevels you to level 1, not forces a brand new character
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ok...so...is it a paladin/monk combo then?
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I would not choose Paladin with such a low starting CHA, as well as I generally dislike CHA based characters anyway.
Rogue/ SD are both good thoughts for skills, especially stealth as it requires two seperate skills to be maintained.
Fighter or Ranger are geed choices for granting a boost to BAB, and attacks per rnd with kamas.
Rogue/ SD are both good thoughts for skills, especially stealth as it requires two seperate skills to be maintained.
Fighter or Ranger are geed choices for granting a boost to BAB, and attacks per rnd with kamas.
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Both rogue and SD can open up epic dodge for monks (10 levels of rogue, or 5 of SD.... to get the defensive roll feat).
ROgues have the better skill points per level for keeping up the stealth skills as well as the tumble, discipline, and which ever other skills you favored as a monk.
I'd go fighter over ranger myself.... ranger would be good for quick duel-weild, but Bram's a fist-monk, not a kama monk, correct? The bonus feats with fighter (and weapon specilaization) would probably serve better.
ROgues have the better skill points per level for keeping up the stealth skills as well as the tumble, discipline, and which ever other skills you favored as a monk.
I'd go fighter over ranger myself.... ranger would be good for quick duel-weild, but Bram's a fist-monk, not a kama monk, correct? The bonus feats with fighter (and weapon specilaization) would probably serve better.
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Bram, as he puts it...is on the path of the fist.
So yes he is a fist monk
So yes he is a fist monk
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Here is what I have come up with...
Monk 31
Shadowdancer 5
Fighter 4
Monk 31
Shadowdancer 5
Fighter 4
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you would need 4 lvls of fighter preepic to get the extra attack, and you need at least one lvl in epic to get EWS unarmed.
not sure about the monk benefits you would lose by going some more fighter, but i would give it a thought.
not sure about the monk benefits you would lose by going some more fighter, but i would give it a thought.
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Just 10% to speed and the Monk HP.
If i go 1 level of fighter in Epic...Should I go 3 then in Epic...One for Epic Weapon Specialization, and Devastating Crit feats respectively?
If i go 1 level of fighter in Epic...Should I go 3 then in Epic...One for Epic Weapon Specialization, and Devastating Crit feats respectively?
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Is your base STR going to be 25 or better? If not, you wont qualify for dev crit... not to mention you would need power attack, great cleave, improved critical, and overwhelming critical.
I think you might do well with Monk 30, Shadowdancer 5, Fighter 5.
4 fighter pre-epic, and 1 post epic for epic weapon spec, crank your dex up, and grab epic dodge.
Also There isnt much for monks past level 20 except for monks with very high wisdom (exceot improved SR, which can ber very nice if you take a lot of it... but imo its not *quite* worth it).... if you arent that, you may wish to consider going more fighter pre-epic to get an AB boost.... its something that is very helpful to monks.
fighter 15, Monk 20, Shadowdancer 5 is a workable alternative.... with a very good AB.
I think you might do well with Monk 30, Shadowdancer 5, Fighter 5.
4 fighter pre-epic, and 1 post epic for epic weapon spec, crank your dex up, and grab epic dodge.
Also There isnt much for monks past level 20 except for monks with very high wisdom (exceot improved SR, which can ber very nice if you take a lot of it... but imo its not *quite* worth it).... if you arent that, you may wish to consider going more fighter pre-epic to get an AB boost.... its something that is very helpful to monks.
fighter 15, Monk 20, Shadowdancer 5 is a workable alternative.... with a very good AB.
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I talked with Dave and I decided on this.
Level 40 Bram Alley
15 Fighter
20 Monk
5 Shadow Dancer
Fighter for the extra feats and AB, 14 regular 1 in epic levels for Epic Weapon Specialization. Monk because of unarmed attack, and not epic Monk due to not getting much useful feats. 5 in Shadow dancer because Bram is a stealthy guy.
Level 40 Bram Alley
15 Fighter
20 Monk
5 Shadow Dancer
Fighter for the extra feats and AB, 14 regular 1 in epic levels for Epic Weapon Specialization. Monk because of unarmed attack, and not epic Monk due to not getting much useful feats. 5 in Shadow dancer because Bram is a stealthy guy.
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Dont forget defensive roll from SD which helps qualify for Epic Dodge.
Also need dodge, improved evasion, tumble 30 ranks, and Dex 25 base.
Also need dodge, improved evasion, tumble 30 ranks, and Dex 25 base.
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DEx is currently at 20 so that isn't a problem.
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Don't need dodge for epic dodge.
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Meh, if you are right, then page 52 of the manual is wrong... which wouldnt surprise me lol
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Why not Champion of Torm instead of Fighter? You'll get +7 to all saving throws if you take 15 levels, and you get Bonus feats Just like Fighter. Divine Wrath is nice.
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- I would even Try Monk 20/Rogue 10/ CoT 10, You'll get a nice amount of Skill points from Rogue to dump into Hide, MS, Tumble and UMD. I have no idea how you plan on Putting 30 in tumble and maintaining high Hide and MS along with Discipline and what ever else you want, if you take all those Fighter levels. It may even be possible to get Self Concealment V and Epic Dodge with all those Feats. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong...
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Champ and Paladin both have a deity requirement in Aenea. Dalix must be your patron to qualify.
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Toss him back in the newbie chamber to let him change his deity. I won't tell.
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could make a mage killer monk easy, all SR feats to take SR to 70, no spell will ever land on em then on custom item get immunity to cold , fire and acid to bypass there damage sheilds, fun monk build.
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Given Bram's daliance with Sorgoth lately... There are some nice monk/assassin builds
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ok reincarnated...and this is the build I am trying...but I can relevel
fighter 5 (1 epic)
Shadowdancer 5
Monk 12(will eventually become a 20)
fighter 5 (1 epic)
Shadowdancer 5
Monk 12(will eventually become a 20)
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