Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

damnable Elves! (Dwarves!)

+2
Maeglin Dubh
MannyJabrielle
6 posters

Go down

damnable Elves!  (Dwarves!) Empty damnable Elves! (Dwarves!)

Post by MannyJabrielle Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:37 pm

Elves get their own weapon proficiency... but Dwarves can't use a Dwarven Waraxe by default? It's not even like those pointy eared bastards are getting exclusive claim to rapiers, bows and longswords...

So.... Small change: Dwarven waraxes (and maybe one or two other "dwarf" themed painbringers) have a "Dwarf" proficiency added to them like longswords require Martial and/or Elf.

And... give dwarf characters the "Dwarf" weapon proficiency. It would have to be given at char level 2 for new characters, and edited in for already created dwarf PCs... but still.

Dwarves knowing how to use dwarven waraxes naturally!
MannyJabrielle
MannyJabrielle
Ludicrous Level
Ludicrous Level

. : Dungeon Master
Male Number of posts : 5927
Main Character : See the "A-Team" thread in the Biographies forum.
DM Name : Dungeon-Master Gaelen
Time Zone : GMT -5:00(EST)
Registration date : 2008-07-05

Back to top Go down

damnable Elves!  (Dwarves!) Empty Re: damnable Elves! (Dwarves!)

Post by Maeglin Dubh Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:34 am

Should other races get free proficiencies as well?
Maeglin Dubh
Maeglin Dubh
Pureblooded Aenean
Pureblooded Aenean

Number of posts : 521
Main Character : Derfel Cadarn, Warlord of Beuttleria
Other Character : Kasigi Toranaga, Serene Swordsman
Other Character. : Stan Card, Not a Crazed Marksman
Registration date : 2008-09-07

Back to top Go down

damnable Elves!  (Dwarves!) Empty Re: damnable Elves! (Dwarves!)

Post by Eric of Atrophy Wed Oct 27, 2010 1:18 am

For things they should know, I don't see why not ...
Eric of Atrophy
Eric of Atrophy
Ludicrous Level
Ludicrous Level

. : Dungeon Master
Male Number of posts : 4113
Age : 51
Location : Kea'au, HI, USA
Main Character : The Vault of Atrophy
NWN Username : atrophied_eric
DM Name : Dungeon Mistress Anaurra Lide
Time Zone : GMT - 10:00 EST (We have our own time zone!)
Registration date : 2008-06-06

http://myanimelist.net/profile/Eric_of_Atrophy

Back to top Go down

damnable Elves!  (Dwarves!) Empty Re: damnable Elves! (Dwarves!)

Post by Maeglin Dubh Wed Oct 27, 2010 1:59 pm

And if we give all races free proficiencies, should elves get another boost to bring them back up to par, or would this be regarded as making all races as useful as elves in that regard?
Maeglin Dubh
Maeglin Dubh
Pureblooded Aenean
Pureblooded Aenean

Number of posts : 521
Main Character : Derfel Cadarn, Warlord of Beuttleria
Other Character : Kasigi Toranaga, Serene Swordsman
Other Character. : Stan Card, Not a Crazed Marksman
Registration date : 2008-09-07

Back to top Go down

damnable Elves!  (Dwarves!) Empty Re: damnable Elves! (Dwarves!)

Post by MannyJabrielle Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:31 pm

In PnP (can't recall if it's 3.0 or just 3.5 rules) Orcs get double-sided weapon proficiencies for free, and Drow don't get the elf proficiency, but their own subset (shortswords, longswords, handcrossbows and shortbows rather than longsword, rapiers, short and long bows).

No other race gets their own proficiency though that I can recall. One or two of the subraces though, but Aenea uses it's own set of subraces, not the generic D&D sets.

For me, it's mostly the oddity of Dwarves not being able to use a dwarven waraxe by default, having to take the exotic weapons feat for it regardless of class.
MannyJabrielle
MannyJabrielle
Ludicrous Level
Ludicrous Level

. : Dungeon Master
Male Number of posts : 5927
Main Character : See the "A-Team" thread in the Biographies forum.
DM Name : Dungeon-Master Gaelen
Time Zone : GMT -5:00(EST)
Registration date : 2008-07-05

Back to top Go down

damnable Elves!  (Dwarves!) Empty Re: damnable Elves! (Dwarves!)

Post by evilkittenofdoom Fri Oct 29, 2010 7:56 am

I'd say maybe make it Warhammers and Dwarven Waraxes. That sounds rather dwarfish to me
evilkittenofdoom
evilkittenofdoom
Epic Level
Epic Level

Male Number of posts : 1217
Age : 124
Location : Ready to Pounce at the Least Suspected Moment...
Main Character : Aseph, the NOT old sorcerer
Other Character : Analo, professional Dracolich (and other undead) hunter
Other Character. : Sivoran, the PC Demilich
Other Character.. : Imyna, Drow Priestess of Sorgath
NWN Username : evilkittenofdoom
Time Zone : EST (GMT-5)
Registration date : 2009-02-26

Back to top Go down

damnable Elves!  (Dwarves!) Empty Re: damnable Elves! (Dwarves!)

Post by Gwydion669 Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:53 am

Even though I don't play dwarves much, I like the warhammer and dwarven waraxe idea.

But I wouldn't go too far down that road and start making new bonus weapon proficiencies for different races ....

We humans are finally no longer second class citizens! We gots a bonus feat! We gots bonus skill points! What kind'a racial weapons would a human mage have available?

Hmm. That opens up a can'o worms. Should a halfling mage be trained in a sling? Should a dwarven mage be able to use a warhammer?

What I personally view as the best way may not even be possible in the engine ... give dwarven fighters a bonus exotic weapon feat only usable for dwarven waraxes or tag dwarven waraxes as a non-exotic martial weapon only for dwarves (and exotic to all others).
Gwydion669
Gwydion669
Adventurer
Adventurer

Male Number of posts : 29
Age : 57
Location : US - Florida
Main Character : Gilion Fetter
Other Character : Maurice Chevalier
NWN Username : Gwydion669
Time Zone : GMT - 4:00, EST - US
Registration date : 2010-10-27

Back to top Go down

damnable Elves!  (Dwarves!) Empty Re: damnable Elves! (Dwarves!)

Post by MannyJabrielle Sat Oct 30, 2010 9:16 am

Na, not every race should get one. The dwarf proficiency though is something out of PnP though, and making NWN closer to PnP is always a good thing Smile
MannyJabrielle
MannyJabrielle
Ludicrous Level
Ludicrous Level

. : Dungeon Master
Male Number of posts : 5927
Main Character : See the "A-Team" thread in the Biographies forum.
DM Name : Dungeon-Master Gaelen
Time Zone : GMT -5:00(EST)
Registration date : 2008-07-05

Back to top Go down

damnable Elves!  (Dwarves!) Empty Re: damnable Elves! (Dwarves!)

Post by RustyDios Sat Oct 30, 2010 5:15 pm

Maybe an OnAquire Event that checks if the race picking them up is a dwarf and adding the temp prop of exotic weap prof to the PC ?... or similar... or some kind of 2da change...

It is odd to think that dwarves are not proficient in the weapon of their namesake... Untill it was mentioned in this thread I thought dwarves were automatically proficient in the Dwarven Waraxe... ...
RustyDios
RustyDios
High Epic Level
High Epic Level

Male Number of posts : 2271
Age : 40
Location : England // Getting lost in Aenea
Main Character : Jay Braysin, The Wandering Shadow, Protector of Nektaria, Talon's Eternal Foe
Other Character : Shouri Braysin, The Shimmerstar's Moonlight Sorceress
Other Character. : Grace Fularras, Walking Library , Cleric of Mystara
Other Character.. : See my sig ... And here too ...
NWN Username : RustyDios
Time Zone : GMT (England, DST)
. : damnable Elves!  (Dwarves!) Forum_donor
Registration date : 2008-07-28

Back to top Go down

damnable Elves!  (Dwarves!) Empty Re: damnable Elves! (Dwarves!)

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum