Not Used: A thought about words and magic items ...
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Not Used: A thought about words and magic items ...
Hi!
I would love to see ioun stones (maybe) and other magic items that require an activation be tied to "speaking" a command word ... harkening back to the days of old, where you could use a weapon, but couldn't turn it on until you knew the password ... think current HoD ...
This would also free up quickslot spaces, as well, and could do away with that goofy "I'm using an item" animation ...
What say ye?
I would love to see ioun stones (maybe) and other magic items that require an activation be tied to "speaking" a command word ... harkening back to the days of old, where you could use a weapon, but couldn't turn it on until you knew the password ... think current HoD ...
This would also free up quickslot spaces, as well, and could do away with that goofy "I'm using an item" animation ...
What say ye?
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Re: Not Used: A thought about words and magic items ...
Well, I would love to have another quickslot freed up, to be sure
So it would be great to have a quick, easy VC command to initiate the ioun stone management conversation, something like ;;ioun maybe.
What would be ever better is if there was some way for that system to work with less scripts, because, as I understand it, each option in the dialogue has its own separate script... so thats like 10 scripts or more ( I think more) to work the ioun management system. The problem with this is, I don't have any ideas or suggestions on how to streamline it... or maybe I do....
... perhaps we could have VC commands to toggle the on/off variable status of specific stones. Provided this variable persisted through a server reset (something stored in the character's "." database book item?) Then when the ;;ioun command is used, only one script fires to bring those effects into play.
So it would be great to have a quick, easy VC command to initiate the ioun stone management conversation, something like ;;ioun maybe.
What would be ever better is if there was some way for that system to work with less scripts, because, as I understand it, each option in the dialogue has its own separate script... so thats like 10 scripts or more ( I think more) to work the ioun management system. The problem with this is, I don't have any ideas or suggestions on how to streamline it... or maybe I do....
... perhaps we could have VC commands to toggle the on/off variable status of specific stones. Provided this variable persisted through a server reset (something stored in the character's "." database book item?) Then when the ;;ioun command is used, only one script fires to bring those effects into play.
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Re: Not Used: A thought about words and magic items ...
Why not just have one big ol' script - each ioun stone could have its own abbreviation, like ;;ioun ib, or ;;ioun pws ... and whenever the ;;ioun xxx is spoken, the script goes down and executes the appropriate fork?
(Y'all gotta forgive me, it's been a few years since I've seriously scripted, and even then I relied on the good graces of , Sharona Curves and Lilac Soul ... plus my mathematics skills/understandings are nothing short of barf ...)
(Y'all gotta forgive me, it's been a few years since I've seriously scripted, and even then I relied on the good graces of , Sharona Curves and Lilac Soul ... plus my mathematics skills/understandings are nothing short of barf ...)
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Re: Not Used: A thought about words and magic items ...
I dig why used the convo to organize the scripting for the ioun stones ... I just have grown to not like it, as it strikes me as being too much out of character ...
now, maybe if I could rename the crystal like "Ioun Stone Focus Gem", that might not be so bad ...
honestly, though, I'd love to see all of the various inventory widgets go the way of the kiwi. vc commands are the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Why not use the little "." book for more than just variable storage ... put useful information on it, like releveling scale control variables and whatnot ... again, clear out the stuff ... I can count the number of times I've used the treasure splitter device ... 0 ... I always drop it when I make a new pc.
Sorry for the rambling, these are things I was thinking of as I was pondering the ioun stones ...
now, maybe if I could rename the crystal like "Ioun Stone Focus Gem", that might not be so bad ...
honestly, though, I'd love to see all of the various inventory widgets go the way of the kiwi. vc commands are the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Why not use the little "." book for more than just variable storage ... put useful information on it, like releveling scale control variables and whatnot ... again, clear out the stuff ... I can count the number of times I've used the treasure splitter device ... 0 ... I always drop it when I make a new pc.
Sorry for the rambling, these are things I was thinking of as I was pondering the ioun stones ...
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Re: Not Used: A thought about words and magic items ...
I would imagine it's one script as well. Not sure how set it up, but the way I would do a VC system is the chat catches what the player says, and runs it through a case switch. If there's a ton of VC commands, to keep the whole thing managable, I'd even split it into several includes... one include containing all the tradeskill stuff, one all the semiclass stuff, ect, ect, ect...
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Re: Not Used: A thought about words and magic items ...
I think the treasure splitter is good to keep, personally.
As for "one big ol' script" for iouns, I dont want to have to type 6 VC commands in after every reset to get my iouns going. I wouldn't mind typing six VC commands once each, ever, to set the variables, and then the only thing I need to type in after resets would be ;;ioun.
Then the only time I would need to use the other ioun vc commands would be if I want to switch what stones I am using.
Also, both methods would still only use "one script", as I am pretty certain the VC command script is a big, consolidated, single script.
The relevel scales function would best be split into a vc command (limited to 2 uses per 40 levels) such as ;;relevel with no argument, that would transport the PC to the relevelling chamber. Then use an OnUse script on the flag in the chamber in combination with the ;;relevel xx command, where xx is the number of levels the PC wishes to go down (and have their XP refunded for). This way the player can actually fix errors made while still in the chamber without having to bug a DM.
As for "one big ol' script" for iouns, I dont want to have to type 6 VC commands in after every reset to get my iouns going. I wouldn't mind typing six VC commands once each, ever, to set the variables, and then the only thing I need to type in after resets would be ;;ioun.
Then the only time I would need to use the other ioun vc commands would be if I want to switch what stones I am using.
Also, both methods would still only use "one script", as I am pretty certain the VC command script is a big, consolidated, single script.
The relevel scales function would best be split into a vc command (limited to 2 uses per 40 levels) such as ;;relevel with no argument, that would transport the PC to the relevelling chamber. Then use an OnUse script on the flag in the chamber in combination with the ;;relevel xx command, where xx is the number of levels the PC wishes to go down (and have their XP refunded for). This way the player can actually fix errors made while still in the chamber without having to bug a DM.
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