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Post by rosareven on Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:08 am

I took notice that deleting and recreating characters under the same name is no simple matter on Aenea, because character data is tied to character names. I wonder if there's another way to recreate characters, or re-level again? (Found out the hard way the re-level item is one-time use)
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Post by RustyDios on Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:34 am

You can ask for another set of scales from the DM team... or wait untill level 21...

or wait until level 40 and re-incarnate (and level "42" and "61" get more scales) and finally wait untill level "80" and ascend (and at "82" and "101" get more scales).... ** note that none of these methods will erase/redo bad character creation choices (anything at level 1)


Or you could retire your PC at arkons, recreate your PC with a single difference in name (an extra space, a Sir/Lady at the beginning, odd capital letter, full stop at end etc etc), and then retrieve your "retired PC's" xp from arkon... ** note that arkon gives a portion of the xp back and takes a cut for himself too...
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Post by rosareven on Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:38 am

I get another scale at level 21? That doesn't sound too far off! (...Right?)

Lately I've just been experimenting with character builds, being unfamiliar, curious and all. From time to time I want to redo a character but keeping the name.

Thanks Rusty!
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Post by Eric of Atrophy on Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:07 am

Just bear in mind, sometimes getting ahold of us DMs is no simple task ... Smile

Maybe someday The Amethyst Dragon will add a releveling function without the scales! (Suggestion thread coming soon!)
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Post by Belarric on Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:53 am

If a relevelling is added in game apart from the scales, maybe tie it in to one of the gods.

Give the ability at a cost to gold and xp even
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Post by daveyeisley on Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:55 pm

What I would like is for the scales item that a PC gets when they reach level 11 and 21 to be changed so that it merely sets a variable on the PC when used. The description can be updated to include a VC command to actually execute the re-level.

This way, you still get the item... So you still have a visual indicator that you earned a relevel, but you can use the item immediately, or whenever it becomes a space burden, and you can still wait on using the VC command until you actually want to relevel.

The VC command script can be modified to check for the variable.

Lady Shea's xp shop could make additional re levels available for a minor fee.

Lastly, the VC command should be re-usable as long as you remain in the relevel chamber. The variable would not be removed until you actually leave the chamber by going through the door transition... Which also protects against disconnects, crashes, and resets from screwing folks up while they're in the chamber
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Post by odbo255 on Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:26 pm

Thought I would lend my $.02

I can see why for game balancing purposes unlimited re-level isn't desirable. Dave touches on some really good points.

Things that weren't obvious to me when I first interacted with the scales:

1) Single-use, updating the description would take care of this
2) Activity in the re-level chamber while in the chamber is non-reversible. I wrongly assumed I could go up and down as much as I liked so long as I didn't leave the chamber

Regarding PC cost of obtaining the scales, I suggest that the "free" ones be eliminated altogether and be replaced by a "god bless" VC command which require a very high piety cost (500?). This would nearly guarantee the investment either in time and/or gp on the part of the PC.
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Post by daveyeisley on Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:27 pm

I think the free ones are quite needed, as folks new to Aenea should never be punished with a cost to correct build issues resulting from the aenean learning curve.
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Post by rosareven on Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:31 pm

This may make me look greedy, but how about free re-level for say, up to level 5? Or lower?
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Post by odbo255 on Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:57 pm

RE: The Aenean "learning curve" it wasn't until my first PC was level 10 before I really began to "get it."
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Post by daveyeisley on Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:11 pm

odbo255 wrote:RE: The Aenean "learning curve" it wasn't until my first PC was level 10 before I really began to "get it."


Yup, right when you might realize you did some things with your build that might not have been in your best interest... you get a relevel scale Smile
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Post by daveyeisley on Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:12 pm

rosareven wrote:This may make me look greedy, but how about free re-level for say, up to level 5? Or lower?

Automatically, probably not going to be implemented, at least no time soon unless The Amethyst Dragon decides to put other things on hold for it. Manually, sure, we can do that if a DM catches you online.
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Post by rosareven on Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:21 pm

daveyeisley wrote:
Automatically, probably not going to be implemented, at least no time soon unless The Amethyst Dragon decides to put other things on hold for it. Manually, sure, we can do that if a DM catches you online.
That would be enough, as long as the permission to re-level due to early level "noobness" is there. It's no urgent matter fortunately because I still have a lot to learn anyway. May as well experiment as much as I can before I re-level for real.
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Post by Eric of Atrophy on Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:00 pm

I have always tried to be as flexible with the relevels as possible, as the absolute goal of Aenea, in my mind, is enjoyment. A nerfed PC is def. not enjoyable.
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Post by Ramana Jala on Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:30 am

I am of the opinion that, here at Aenea, any reasonable request will be considered.

Just remember that releveling only takes you down to Level 1, so whatever class you had for L1 will still be there, along with whatever feats and skills you chose upon original character creation. If you want to completely replace the class at L1, you'll have to make a new toon with a new unique name.

I hypothesize that some choices might be changeable by the DM via LETO, like possibly subrace, but I don't really know for sure.
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