Re: Updated-Consolidated list of Area/Spawn/Creature/Item issues

by **The Amethyst Dragon** Thu Mar 31, 2011 1:16 am

Ettercap appearance: Will be updated with the next hak update (entirely new model, thanks to babayaga/diademous).

by **daveyeisley** Thu Mar 31, 2011 1:26 am

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by **MannyJabrielle** Thu Mar 31, 2011 3:48 am

The lower level of the sorgath drow temple doesn't give that 'cut off from the rest of the world' message when you enter it.

by **daveyeisley** Fri Apr 01, 2011 3:07 pm

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by **MannyJabrielle** Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:03 pm

Not a "bug" per-se, but a huge annoyance with a quest NPC

Spoiler:

by **daveyeisley** Sun Apr 03, 2011 3:02 am

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by **MannyJabrielle** Sun Apr 03, 2011 7:02 am

Bluecave... the wrymlings are spawning normal sized now. On my last two passthroughs, the adults were spawning invisible (not as in the spell invisibility, simply no model, but their names show on tab-highlight).

Also, now ALL the bronze dragons in bluecave are drowning.

Another bluecave issue: The treasure hordes... you have to "bash" them to pick up the gold (makes no sens why you gotta punch a pile of gold to pick it up!) and when you open the remains, it spits out a TMI error on the dragonhoard_opn1 script.

by **daveyeisley** Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:39 am

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by **MannyJabrielle** Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:05 pm

League Mage Merchant: He has a 10 stack of scrolls labeled "find and disarm traps", but the icon, and the spell effect are "summon creature I".

Also, not sure if this is a bug per-se, but the league merchant has stopped recognizing bards as acceptable customers despite bards being arcane spell casters.

by **daveyeisley** Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:18 pm

This update is kind of a biggie. Zolaras' Gift tokens are suddenly not refunding XP, nor are they returning the PC to life where they had died. They are still destroying the PCs corpse, however, making it impossible to be raised by other means after the failure.

by **MannyJabrielle** Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:24 pm

The regular map room (Conentrating on the map): The portal seems to be broken. A player tonight was trying to exit through it, but no matter how many clicks, no go.

Suggest changing the portal placable to the same as in the 3D map room, as that one works just fine.

by **daveyeisley** Fri Apr 08, 2011 3:00 am

New Info:

Zolaras' Gift tokens are now properly refunding XP, AND returning PCs to life. You may use them without fear now. Be aware, subrace PCs are still experiencing a bug that causes loss of subrace properties (such as vampires no longer being healed by blood, and needing regular food to sleep), so when you arrive in the Great Hall after dying, you will still need to log out and then log back in before you attempt to return to life.

by **uriel1996** Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:37 am

This is a new old bug. The green item update anvil "ate" my +5 deflection ring and jump tool/widget the way the SDI floor trigger used to.

by **daveyeisley** Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:54 am

You mean to say no replacements were givien?

by **uriel1996** Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:26 pm

Correct, no replacements. It's hit or miss on what gets replaced, the jump tool and the +5 ac ring being repeat offenders that I can recall across several characters and several months of playtime.

by **daveyeisley** Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:28 pm

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by **MannyJabrielle** Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:39 pm

Barneystown: The underground shop: When you enter, the transitioning plops you 'behind' the door going back out.

Update to Bluecave: The wyrmlings are the right size now. All the bronze dragons (wyrmling and adult) are still downing however. The treasure piles still spit out a TMI error when you bash them (Why do we have to "bash" a treasure pile to open it?)

Findable tracks near the Darkroot family's homestead: A player reported that when she identified the tracks, the stated that the tracks were "heading towards ." Which prompted her to ask where "." was Laughing

Trolls: Used to be if you knew the giant language, when you fight trolls, their "strange growling noises" would be translated into "Me no die!". This doesn't happen anymore.

by **MannyJabrielle** Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:27 pm

Updated-Consolidated list of Area/Spawn/Creature/Item issues - Page 2 Badtil10

This area in Calithia, Gold ward south.... there's an intersection where you can't pass through. It acts as if there's a wall there. I've circled the spot on the minimap in the screenshot, and made a red line along where the invisble "barrier" is in the intersection itself (admire my mad paint skillz!)

Nightwood: This area used to have really cool shadow creatures spawn... shadow goblins, shadowbears, shadow wolves... haven't seen them in there for a long while now. Would be great to see them come back.

Also for nightwood... it's apparently an "indoor" area? That prevents flight and horses from being used in there. Perhaps it should just be an outdoors area with the "shade" trigger spread out over it?

by **daveyeisley** Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:51 pm

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by **MannyJabrielle** Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:04 am

Emerald Golems in K'Nort Scrar Rift are crit-vulnerable, despite being constructs.

by **daveyeisley** Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:13 am

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by **MannyJabrielle** Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:57 am

K'Nort Scrar: Othik

The fog level of the area is set so high that unless you're zoomed in all the way, half the screen is "grayed out".

by **daveyeisley** Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:53 am

New Info:

Zolaras' Gift tokens are now properly refunding XP, AND returning PCs to life. You may use them without fear now. Be aware, subrace PCs are still experiencing a bug that causes loss of subrace properties (such as vampires no longer being healed by blood, and needing regular food to sleep), so when you arrive in the Great Hall after dying, you will still need to log out and then log back in before you attempt to return to life.

Not only are Zolaras' Gift tokens fixed and once again working properly, but it seems has also manged to fix the subraced PC bug where the subrace bonuses/properties were lost upon death/returning to life!!!

Awesome!!

by **The Amethyst Dragon** Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:24 am

21. Macedonia: Northern Crossroads and Macedonia: Outside the City Gates
are both spawning "artic themed" creatures like Evil Snowmen, Ice Trolls, and Artic orcs.

This has a chance of happening during months 10-12 (winter in Aenea). If they are spawning during spring, summer, or autumn, then it is a bug.

26. The lower level of the Sorgath Temple
is teleport blocked, but does not give the message upon entering that "this area is magically cut off from other parts of the world".

Just tested this, and it functioned properly. The message only shows for spellcasters, so those that rely on items (such as scrolls) for teleportation would not notice such a message anyplace.

For next module update:

33. Harvesting Tool at Smitty's costs around 200gp. Starting characters cannot afford this.

Harvesting tool price lowered.

23. Staked Out Prisoners placeable (used mainly in a certain snake temple basement) needs its description updated to reflect change to the ;;pc tool free command.

Fixed.

28. Spellbook: Barrier of Faith is selling for the low, low bargain price of only a single gold piece... and can be purchased for the same amount.

Fixed.

32. Astral Conjunction Character Creation Language Selection room should explain more clearly that PCs may learn additional languages later in-game, and that the INT modifier is not a limit on languages that can be known.

Fixed.

40. Barneystown: The underground shop When you enter, the transitioning plops you 'behind' the door going back out.

Fixed.

41. Trolls: Used to be if you knew the Giant language, when you fight trolls, their "strange growling noises" would be translated into "Me no die!". This doesn't happen anymore.

Fixed.

K'Nort Scrar: Othik The fog level of the area is set so high that unless you're zoomed in all the way, half the screen is "grayed out".

Fog distance pushed back.

by **MannyJabrielle** Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:26 am

w00t!

by **daveyeisley** Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:44 am

And, he's off to the races!! The Amethyst Dragon

is on a tear! HUZZAH!

by **MannyJabrielle** Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:50 am

Elementals, particularly elder elementals: Their "clickable space" is simply massive. In the case of the elementals summoned with summon creature IX, their clickable space is more than twice as large as the actual model, which already takes up a very large amount of space on the screen. This can make walking about incredibly difficult, to downright impossible without using the WASD keys.

by **daveyeisley** Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:57 am

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by **MannyJabrielle** Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:01 am

Updated-Consolidated list of Area/Spawn/Creature/Item issues - Page 2 Image210

An example.... the cursor isn't captured with screenshots, so I scribbled a circle around where the cursor was on my screen when the elemental became clickable.

by **daveyeisley** Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:08 am

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by **MannyJabrielle** Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:31 am

Updated-Consolidated list of Area/Spawn/Creature/Item issues - Page 2 Deathr10

Screenshot says it all Sad

by **daveyeisley** Mon Apr 11, 2011 1:32 am

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by **The Amethyst Dragon** Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:51 pm

MannyJabrielle wrote:League Mage Merchant: He has a 10 stack of scrolls labeled "find and disarm traps", but the icon, and the spell effect are "summon creature I".

Also, not sure if this is a bug per-se, but the league merchant has stopped recognizing bards as acceptable customers despite bards being arcane spell casters.

Scroll fixed.

He hasn't stopped recognizing bards as his customers...he never did. He' caters to sorcerers and wizards.

Giant ant hive guards...reduced damage they cause (increased hitpoints slightly).

by **MannyJabrielle** Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:09 am

That's odd... because Alastair has always been able to buy from him (even before the class disguises came out... he's only had to use a wizard's disguise quite recently)

by **daveyeisley** Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:15 am

Before I go posting an updated list I need to ask for clarification on this:

Giant ant hive guards...reduced damage they cause (increased hitpoints slightly).

See, the original bug was from when I shadowed a new player's lowbie, and looked at the stats on these Hive Guards. They had 22 AC which meant that PCs with low AB are only going to hit on a 20, and they had almost 50 hitpoints.

I dunno how these issues are fixed by reducing the damage they do, and increasing their hps.

To me, the damage they do was high, sure, but with enough AC or good tactics a PC could mitigate that.

The thing that lowbies couldnt handle was their AC and how many hits it takes to kill them. The normal ants will die in 1 to 3 hits usually... but the hive guards with 50 hps could take 10 or more hits. If lowbies were guaranteed to fight them 1 on 1, maybe that would be winnable.

As it stands, lowbies get mobbed as they reach that part of the area.... and the AC and hitpoints on the Hive Guards are so high it is like forcing a death down the player's throat.

Not all PCs have a +5 AB at level 2 or 3. Not all PCs can dish out 10 damage a hit. If your PC can't do these things, the Hive Guard will just ruin the fun of fighting in that area. Its supposed to be a beginner area, not a death trap.

by **daveyeisley** Fri Apr 15, 2011 4:16 am

So... the Giant Ant Hive guards...

They still have 22 AC, and now they have 64 hit points. They still hit decently hard compared to the rest of the ants.

At least 2 of these things spawn for lowbies when they get down there. Along with a slew of normal ants and larva.

If a player has a PC with low combat stats, like a rogue, a monk, or a cleric that has low Str and Dex, they wont be able to hit, and they will need to hit over 10 times to kill these things.

Its just not gonna work. More than one player have said so, both in game and on the forums. These hive guards are too strong for lowbies.

by **MannyJabrielle** Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:46 am

The triggers for Priscilla's Priestly Goods seem to be broken. I couldn't get the zolarass shop to open for either of my zolaras devotees (if it's a piety issue, the one had nearly 2k piety. The other was a cleric of zolaras and coudln't get the shop to open either).

by **daveyeisley** Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:49 am

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by **Angel of Death** Sat Apr 16, 2011 8:29 pm

17. Purple Worm is not always granting XP when killed, and needs a delay before burrowing.

I discovered another bug with the purple worm. It seems the area you get to when your swallowed by the worm is an outdoor area.... Exclamation

You'd think that when your swallowed by a giant worm, you would at least be safe from the sun. >.> sunny

by **daveyeisley** Sat Apr 16, 2011 8:57 pm

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by **Angel of Death** Sun Apr 17, 2011 6:52 am

MannyJabrielle wrote:

Screenshot says it all

Just wanted to note that I just experienced the same thing. Sad

I wear a helmet with immunity to death magic (and leveldrain immunity), but the elder beholders ray bypassed that. I wonder if it's a glitch when hit by antimagic rays?

by **daveyeisley** Sun Apr 17, 2011 8:47 am

Its a glitch and is not 100% repeatable. In other words, it only happens sometimes, to some PCs, making it extremely difficult to track down the root cause.

For example, 3 of my main PCs all kill beholders quite a bit, they all have death immunity (one from the exact same helm you wear) and none of them have had any issues for months and months.

by **daveyeisley** Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:02 pm

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by **The Amethyst Dragon** Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:30 pm

31. Alchemist Dragon Eggs do not respect evasion or improved evasion.
-This one should now be fixed.

by **daveyeisley** Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:15 pm

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by **MannyJabrielle** Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:57 am

Additional note for the purple worm.

Got swallowed. Whipped out a kukri. Attacked the gizzard. My character said "I have cut my way free" or somesuch... and got put into a 5 second cutscene...

and then nothing. Still stuck in the gizzard.

Process 100% repeatable.

Honestly, I would suggest totally nuking the worm's ability to swallow PCs until it's fixed.

by **daveyeisley** Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:29 pm

Took my monk, Blink into the Dark Realm tonight. Seems the environment penalties are all acting normally... except for the AC penalty, and the skill penalties.

Blink usually has a 91 ac, just standing around in the normal world. In the Dark realm, instead of taking a -3 penalty like most characters, he is being lowered to 82 AC. Thats a freakin 9 point AC penalty!!

Not cool. Big freakin problem, because his AC is the main focus of his build, and a 9 point penalty that he cant do anything about is over-the-top ridiculous.

What are the mechanics the the penalties applied?

by **daveyeisley** Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:39 pm

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by **MannyJabrielle** Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:07 pm

I took Alastair in to the darkrealms, his AC penalties would fluctuate. Upon entering, he had a 3 AC penalty. Drank a renewal, when the penalties returned, it was 5 point AC penalty. Drank another renewal, penalties came back, 2 point penalty. Did an area transition after that, the penalty increased to 4 points.

Dave just mentioned to me as well he's getting stacking AC penalties on area transitions as well. He noted the skill penalty is stacking on transitions as well.

The 3 point penalty itself should be more than enough, especially with the 5 other penalties stacked on top of that.

thought on this... The script that applies the dark realm penalties is not checking to make sure you already have penalties on you, so it just stacks them up one after another when you go through transitions.

by **daveyeisley** Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:24 pm

I agree, it has to be something to do with transitions and the OnEnter script.... that is not checking for the existing penalties.... so they get stacked each time....

Maybe just have the OnEnter script cancel all the penalties first, and then reapply them a few seconds later to prevent this issue?

With how tough the enemies are already.... the penalties normally are a big huge pain in the backside... but stacking them? My god... no.... just no. Not even remotely OK.

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