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Post by A_Vagabond Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:47 pm

I'd humbly submit a suggestion to have an expensive potion (or device, whatever) of amnesia, to allow PCs in game to reset their subclass. After all, we are given the relevel scales, as well as the ability to reset an alignment, why not allow a player the chance to change a subclass? Maybe tie it into the relevel scales, or have it separate, whatever.
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Post by DPLincoln Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:26 pm

Interesting idea.
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Post by daveyeisley Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:42 pm

I like it. As long as there is some kind of cost, even just a small one. Just make sure it isnt too painful, and it works.
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Post by Eric of Atrophy Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:36 pm

Sounds solid. It's nice to have varied PC management options, after all ...
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Post by evilkittenofdoom Sat May 19, 2012 7:28 pm

The problem with this is the permanant boosts that occur from some of the Semi Classes. Being able to remove them causes all sorts of problems, such as stacking bonuses, being eligible to feats that you would otherwise be ineligible for, etc. etc.
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Post by A_Vagabond Sat May 19, 2012 9:16 pm

It's doable if it's part of the relevel process. As in, in the relevel room, you can optionally reset your subclass along with the rest of the relevel procedure. Anyone with permanent stats (iirc, warhulk only) they would get those stat points removed at that time. Otherwise, there are no feat issues, because you need to retake them as you relevel, and you won't have the bonus points, so there won't be an invalidation or other issue.
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Post by daveyeisley Sun May 20, 2012 6:13 am

A_Vagabond wrote:It's doable if it's part of the relevel process. As in, in the relevel room, you can optionally reset your subclass along with the rest of the relevel procedure. Anyone with permanent stats (iirc, warhulk only) they would get those stat points removed at that time. Otherwise, there are no feat issues, because you need to retake them as you relevel, and you won't have the bonus points, so there won't be an invalidation or other issue.

One way to handle it, definitely.

Releveling could use a bit of love, to be sure. As in, easier access than just the relevel scales. Not infinite free relevels, mind you, but maybe be able to purchase them or quest for them.

The relevel room is great, but I also think the number of levels the character is reduced should be variable. If your PC is level 40, and you only want to fix a mistake you made on level 37, you shouldn't be required to go all the way back to level 1. VC commands would be good for this.

Of course, if you opt to reset subclass, you go back to level 1, no matter what.
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Post by A_Vagabond Sun May 20, 2012 1:34 pm

Nice ideas, for sure. Love the selectable level-drop. Would also like a redo if you mess up whilst still within the chamber.

Plus, I would love to see a "shut off the spam" command for the level-up server-wide announcements, at least for the releveled levels. And, for any XP gained via PC retirement. I know it doesn't announce if you're in the relevel chamber, but if you get retirement XP, or if you have to leave the chamber for some reason, it would be polite to not have to spam the server as you step back up to your former level.
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Post by RustyDios Sun May 20, 2012 3:01 pm

True... I normally forewarn people with people with a polite shout first, or just wait until no-one is on-line.....
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Post by A_Vagabond Sun May 20, 2012 6:54 pm

RustyDios wrote:True... I normally forewarn people with people with a polite shout first, or just wait until no-one is on-line.....

As do I, but a vc command would be cleaner, no?
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