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Post by Drgnwlkr Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:20 pm

I recently bought this Sony laptop with Windows 7 64bit and got a fresh/clean dl of NWN Diamond Edition from Gamestop. Everything works well except when I log into Aenea and am sent to the Astral Conjunction. I load into the start area and see red boarder walls around the places to walk. I mentioned this to Dave just a minute ago and then went to dl the updated files since mine were older. That didn't help, I still saw the red walls so not sure what the problem is. Once in game, I have no troubles with visuals and do not see any red walls anywhere else =)


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Post by Eric of Atrophy Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:28 pm

And it's only in the Astral Conjunction? What if you re-enter the Conjunction via one of those goofy mage spell-testing rooms?
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Post by Drgnwlkr Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:29 pm

I just logged on with my desktop and a different char and there were no walls in the Conjunction but going to check now on this laptop.
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Post by Drgnwlkr Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:35 pm

Yep, the walls still there so it must have something to do with this laptop but what, I have no clue of
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Post by daveyeisley Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:42 pm

Video driver, I am guessing. Check Sony website for updated driver.
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Post by RustyDios Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:40 am

Screenshot of the issue please ?
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Post by Eric of Atrophy Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:33 am

What Dave said! And of course, maybe a redownload of the Aenea haks.
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Post by The Amethyst Dragon Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:55 am

Sounds like a video driver issue, likely involving a texture/rendering function. There are walls there (and they are, indeed, red in the toolset), but they are supposed to be invisible in-game.
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Post by RustyDios Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:32 am

Are those walls similar to the extra download hak for builders of another tileset ?*... I can't remember the tileset I'm referring to exactly, I think it's one of the "generic dungeon/multilayer dungeon" tilesets... I do know we use it in Aenea in a few places.... ...

Have you somehow gotten a file mixed up in your haks?



.... But I'd follow daves advice first, likely a video driver/ rendering issue....


*the tileset has a hak that can be added to the module for toolset addition/building/tweaks, and shows red blocks/walls for height/depth of something.. then removed with no adverse effects before finalizing for player use..
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Post by Drgnwlkr Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:02 am

I've checked on the driver and supposedly it is up to date. Not sure about the file you mention Rusty. I have updated and exported the updated files for Aenea that were from September's update. Yes The Amethyst Dragon, I figured those walls might be actually there but supposed to be invis to the player. I do not see them on my desktop or older laptop but they both run Vista 32 bit. They have no issues at all and I'm using nwncx on them but not the new laptop.

I have a screenshot but can't get it to load on the forum...not very sazy with that, heheh
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Post by RustyDios Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:31 am

Drgnwlkr wrote:
I have a screenshot but can't get it to load on the forum...not very sazy with that, heheh
How to upload screenies for dummies Smile:
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Post by Drgnwlkr Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:41 am

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... nope the tutorial didn't help 1 bit!?! affraid


thx Rusty What a Face
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Post by RustyDios Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:19 pm

No problemo.... now we can all see exactly what you are experiencing without having to guess at it and anyone that stops by with the same/similar fault can easily go > ""That's my problem too!.. how did they fix this...""

If it were me I'd also change this threads title to read "Red walls in the Astral Conjunction (Starting Area)".... so the silly forum search function can locate it for any possible new players that may experience the same thing.... ...


Unfortunately I've never experienced this, don't know what could be causing it and very sadly have no idea how to help you prevent it.. Sad Sad


Could it be something to do with the video options ?..

EDIT :: btw the walls are a very similar shade of red as the "toolset tileset help hak" that I was thinking of...
EDIT :: found the tileset I was thinking of; Versatile Dungeon
EDIT :: I also took a screenshot of the VD documentation that came to mind when reading your bug... see I'm NOT going mad....

Screenshot:


Unfortunately it STILL doesn't help one bit in solving your issue... sorry... ....


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Post by Ramana Jala Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:03 pm

Wowie, wonder if this is a fault in one of your haks, some function about recognizing those Aenean walls as invisible.

You might try reinstalling the Aenean haks and updates.
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Post by The Amethyst Dragon Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:32 pm

Moving to tech support section. Definitely a machine-specific issue.

There isn't a "builder version" issue here (like with the red spaces on the versatile dungeon hak). Those walls are supposed to be invisible, just blocking movement off the ice+crystal pathways. They are supposed to be visible in the toolset, but invisible during live gaming (and function as intended in most cases).
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Post by daveyeisley Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:27 pm

If video driver is up to date, then I would try cranking video settings all the way up and see if anything changes... If this issue goes away but performance suffers, then slowly, incrementally turn things down until you locate the happy medium where the problem is gone, but performance is acceptable.

Also recommend installing nwncx.

Last thing to try is going into device manager, selecting video/display driver, right-click, select 'update driver' and in the wizard, choose the option to heck windows update. There might be a better version on there...
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Post by daveyeisley Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:29 pm

Correction... Last thing would be a full NWN reinstall and all Aenean and cep content. Start from scratch and redownload everything.

Might also take a peek in the NWN.ini and see if the display options section has anything that jumps out at you, or google the issue and see if there are useful threads anywhere else on it... Maybe the bioware boards...
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Post by The Amethyst Dragon Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:53 am

Not specific to this issue, but some people have had success dealing with NWN issues by rolling back to older video drivers.
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Post by Drgnwlkr Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:58 am

Thanks to everyone. I will keep trying. The walls don't really bother me so long as they are not a sign of something worse and so far nothing else has been different.
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